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The Drum & Bass Thread (formally Drum 'n' Bass is dead?)
Posted on: 19.08.2008 by Random X
Every now and than, a musical genres foremost poet or pioneer will come forth claiming the style is dead.

We've already seen it in punk, hip hop, metal, rock and opera already.

Stupidest thing even, that this seems to be some kind of "retro- cycle" that passes along every decade.

With the coming of styles like dubstep amongst others, purists are really keen on claiming that these styles are no derative or subgenre of our beloved DnB.
Better yet, they utter the words "DnB is dead!"

If your own creative impulses can't cope with a style any longer, why claim it is dead in the first place? Couldn't it just evolve into other (sub)styles?
No, kill your idols instead!
There seems to be no better way to start something new, than completely destroy any relations with the past.

How can a genre with high BPM rates be dead, while comparing it to the ever so low BPM rates of the ever so vivid dubstep?
Ofcourse, BPM rates are not a factor in this case, but people listening and enjoying DnB are.
There are still heaps and heaps of bass-heads still jumping their shoes to the sounds of d&b pioneers as Krush, Bukem, Dom & Roland and all others still producing.

Agreed that the old spirit needs to be revived. Still, it's no reason to don the old lass after that much joy she has given us.

Drum and Bass is dead? It seems ever so vibrant as it was in 1996!
Yvone Kanatzar
09.06.2009
seen noisia 4 times live, made poor impression
Xavier Emanuels
09.06.2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDGAfztnkns

<3
Random X
26.05.2009
Originally Posted by midifidler
Heh Ill let you off just this once
Thanks!
Originally Posted by Kaon
they are one of the best performances you'll ever see.
And thank you for pointing out I was full of wank by missing this.
Adolf Hit
25.05.2009
lol @midian
Ryan Morales
25.05.2009
imo pendglem live are waaaay better
Virginia Ortiz
25.05.2009
they are one of the best performances you'll ever see.
Adolf Hit
25.05.2009
Heh Ill let you off just this once
Random X
25.05.2009
Sorry for that.
(Will do!)
Adolf Hit
24.05.2009
Originally Posted by Tekki
Well, they were here, but I just missed 'em.
Fail dude, they're my favorite live act!

Gotta catch em next time.
Random X
22.05.2009
Well, they were here, but I just missed 'em.
Gretchen Aaby
22.05.2009
haha, shapeshifter do a mental live set. some of New Zealands finest, next to concord dawn :P
sinior cliff
22.05.2009
Just heard about em tbh. I'm liking every track so far. almost a bukem type vibe; all sorts of chill.
Random X
22.05.2009
No truer words were ever spoken.

What are your opinions on Shapeshifter by the way?
sinior cliff
21.05.2009
Originally Posted by midifidler
of the ideal scene anyway...
/agreed

there will always be haters in any scene, just gotta brush it off and keep on going. dnb fo laif!
Adolf Hit
21.05.2009
Originally Posted by Kaon
fully, thats one of the biggest appeals of the dnb/dubstep scene, absolutely no pretentions. everyones just there to have a good time
of the ideal scene anyway...
Virginia Ortiz
21.05.2009
Originally Posted by mpetersen3
Yea, I am not the best dancer (far from it) but when people see me dance they see how much fun I am having and no one can say shit to that.
fully, thats one of the biggest appeals of the dnb/dubstep scene, absolutely no pretentions. everyones just there to have a good time
Yvone Kanatzar
21.05.2009
mista rallevondalle, google out dj K flyin`, its really old one
de Riedmatten Gauthier
21.05.2009
Originally Posted by Kotyara
in Kiev ^Ukraine^ d`n`b is mainstream, dancefloors are filled with tonns of people
few links on openair parties
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbtTxIc8xx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgIPJIAxoE
and inside club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9QOK1BjYM
thats why I prefer visit dem if I play there...
LOL, is the last video a remix og Lenny Kravitz? The crowd really digs it haha
Hertha Fang
20.05.2009
Originally Posted by Kaon
plus one million. thats what its all abour bruv
Yea, I am not the best dancer (far from it) but when people see me dance they see how much fun I am having and no one can say shit to that.
Random X
20.05.2009
Yo Kaon, got the invite for joining the Collective. So now it's official?
Virginia Ortiz
20.05.2009
just over a week now, cant wait to get down to the wellington massive!!
sinior cliff
20.05.2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kT-m-G1R_s
Yvone Kanatzar
18.05.2009
in Kiev ^Ukraine^ d`n`b is mainstream, dancefloors are filled with tonns of people
few links on openair parties
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbtTxIc8xx4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgIPJIAxoE
and inside club
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce9QOK1BjYM
thats why I prefer visit dem if I play there...
Andriy Gavrysh
17.05.2009
Originally Posted by Jaques LeNoir
I've always been intrested in DnB, always get excited when I hear it at a party, but finding out more about it has always felt a bit overwhelming.

So can you outline for me some (preferably numerous) artists I need to check out and epic dnb anthems i need to know?! I want to be able to DJ dnb! Just stick to the more traditional stuff, wild beats and great basslines & melodies, liquid funk can wait.
http://djranking s.com/community /showthr...?t=840&page=99

You should have a look at Midians post!
Charline Dunch
17.05.2009
oh about the dnb step sucks thing. check this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi2Ub...eature=related

he's freakin awesome
Herlinda Burross
15.05.2009
I've always been intrested in DnB, always get excited when I hear it at a party, but finding out more about it has always felt a bit overwhelming.

So can you outline for me some (preferably numerous) artists I need to check out and epic dnb anthems i need to know?! I want to be able to DJ dnb! Just stick to the more traditional stuff, wild beats and great basslines & melodies, liquid funk can wait.
Adolf Hit
15.05.2009
Originally Posted by B33SON
How funny. I was just about to jab a pencil in my ear as well. jinks!
Touche'

Lol
Hannes Deburchgraeve
14.05.2009
Originally Posted by midifidler
This reminds me I have not yet listened to any d&b so far today.

Time to rectify that situation
How funny. I was just about to jab a pencil in my ear as well. jinks!
Virginia Ortiz
14.05.2009
ive been on it all day so i swapped to this
www.kfmradio.co.nz

feelin good now heh
Adolf Hit
14.05.2009
i rather see someone having fun than someone looking cool
Amen!

This reminds me I have not yet listened to any d&b so far today.

Time to rectify that situation
Virginia Ortiz
13.05.2009
Originally Posted by Lauchsound
i like all kinds of freaky dancing. the video above is a bad example but if done right, dnb stepping can look real nice. that's what i really like about dnb raves - you usually got enough space, because the rooms aren't that filled and the music fits to jump around like crazy. dunno about you guys, but it's a hell lot of fun to me. i rather see someone having fun than someone looking cool

well i mean i come from dancehall and ska music so it's probably just natural for me to jump around.
plus one million. thats what its all abour bruv
Charline Dunch
13.05.2009
i like all kinds of freaky dancing. the video above is a bad example but if done right, dnb stepping can look real nice. that's what i really like about dnb raves - you usually got enough space, because the rooms aren't that filled and the music fits to jump around like crazy. dunno about you guys, but it's a hell lot of fun to me. i rather see someone having fun than someone looking cool

well i mean i come from dancehall and ska music so it's probably just natural for me to jump around.
Andriy Gavrysh
13.05.2009
Originally Posted by GUVNA
I have a lot of friends from the US and where DnB hasnt been around so long there, they tend not care on the genre.
Now imagine the situation in Austria - it's a small country, there's kind of a big house massive, but kind of a small DnB massive... I mean there is one, but it's rather small...
DnB in England is MUCH more evolved - here in Austria ppl generally don't care about genres in DnB, I guess about 10% of the DnB massive here are DJs spinning DnB

In England and in America Dubstep also got a quite big massive - I'm spinning Dubstep myself and mostly I can spin it only at the end of the gig, as playing Dubstep nearly always clears the floors
There are some heads, if you find some of them you can make them dance to Dubstep all evening long, but in 2000 ppl I guess there are about 10 to 15 Dubstep heads...

I'm much more into Liquid and Intelligent than Neuro or Techstep... I like those dark and bad genres very much, but it can't beat really good Liquid IMO!


Originally Posted by GUVNA
...when they get going n mashed in a club its so funny.They normally end up hitting someone with their flailing arms and get a beating lmao.
lol
Like to see that happen one day
Apolonia Skibinski
13.05.2009
Morbido im from England, and yeah the steppa dancing seems to be a european thing.I have a lot of friends from the US and where DnB hasnt been around so long there, they tend not care on the genre.But its been around so long here dj's and party go'ers get a wide choice.The jungle/jump up style was around from the start, so many of us older guys (im 30) progressed.But the younger generations still see it as fresh.I play liqiud and intelligent aswell as dark tech, darkcore w/e you wanna call it, but clubs rarely ever mix jungle/jump up with those, if they do its a seperate room/club.

Heres some steppa if ya never seen it, when they get going n mashed in a club its so funny.They normally end up hitting someone with their flailing arms and get a beating lmao.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYBte...eature=related
lmao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W22gpBv00gg
This never fails for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVsC1...eature=related
Xavier Emanuels
13.05.2009
!!! uber phat choonage !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvuGhxpn4dc

!!! uber phat choonage !!!
Andriy Gavrysh
13.05.2009
FL Studio is quite a nice app, a friend of mine uses it for his production and actually i like it a lot.
grats for your remix once again - even if it wasn't so hard work it's feeling quite nice and that is the most important part of music i believe!


GUVNA - where are you from? does this apply for the USA?

i'm from austria and the scene here (as far as i found out by now) is a little bit different:
ppl do like jungle and jump up - you have to watch out a bit though what you play, but in general they like these subgenres.
nobody does steppa dancing here though, and i'm really happy about it!
the ppl listening to dnb are from about 15 to 30/40 and mostly they don't care what type of dnb you play as long as it fits in the overall atmosphere. i'm 24 and i do like jungle (esp. reggae/ragga jungle as my spinning roots are in reggae/ragga) and jump up, but i also do like subgenres like neuro a lot - ppl like neuro too, but most of the time you can't play neuro only, you have to bring them slowly to neuro (starting with liquid, going to jump up and progressing further and further until you're at neuro and techstep).

it's funny how different the scenes in different countries can be
sinior cliff
13.05.2009
lol at dirty hipsters hardstepping to dnb.
Apolonia Skibinski
13.05.2009
Getting back to subject, DnB is far from dead, its expanded all over the world!!.All thats happened is its split into sub genre's, which is a very good thing imo.I admit some of these are getting very tired, tracks from the likes of Magistrate and Taxman ect are all the same, with all originality gone.It was the diversity of DnB that made it so strong, but these mainstream producers, churning out the same old samples remixed is doing it damage.Theres so many good producers out there who are relatively unkown, Mark Tailor made an awesome album as did Matar recently.I have been into DnB from its conception, i was a big fan of Ltj Bukem and the early heavy bass.But now ive progressed to the darker techno influenced stuff of Current Value, Limewax, Counterstrike.The jungle/jump up scene is pretty much for kids nowadays, clubs are full of these 15-20yr old chavs in caps lol.They all do that stupid steppa dancing to, they make me lmao flailing around.In the old days it was just the 2's n 4's you danced to, but they make it look like riverdance lol.
Amada Brierley
12.05.2009
http://www.musiconmypc.co.uk/fl-stud...956516f65d8b21



ok ok. 140 for XXL with student. still pretty damn great!
Xavier Emanuels
12.05.2009
FL studio is a sick program - the XXL edition is worth the money, costs a bit more than

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